Let's talk about Film911

RodrigoMDZ · 2017-03-14 15:56:25

Oh well, Film911 was forbidden on "the other place" but I guess we can chat about it here more freely, without being completely explicit I guess, no need to talk about details. Maybe the owner will eventually join here and we'll get bigger and better contents.

Well, I have to confess... being a very specific kink is not really easy to find a site that caters to our needs in terms of heartbeat "porn" (I use quotation marks cause it's not always sexual... i mean, most of the videos of Film911 are from guys stethign each other, excercising or playing doctor, not every time we get nudity on them), i have bought several of the videos. At first the videos were quite short (and expensive) but it was so new I just had to buy a few. Then, with suggestions and what not the videos improved a lot, specially regarding the sound and the lenght (wich for me cut the price down as well... it's not the same to pay u$S20 for a 12 minute video than paying it for a 26 minute video with two angles or two sound mixes totalling over 40 minutes. So, I bought lots of those for a while...)

But, eventually, they started to have a few new problems.
First of all, they became quite boring, very repetitive... always the same scenes (the guy running or excercising, then stething, more excercise, more stething, doctor scene, then end).
Second, the lenght... with the excuse of dual audio mix the videos have been cutting short again. Instead of two audio mixes of 20 minutes we get two of 10 or less.
Third, the pricing is incoherent. I mean, i know it's a small niche and the production value is high. But the pricing is inconsistent... or rather way too consistent. You pay the same amount of money for a video of 15 minutes than for a video of 40.

For example:
Regular videos
Connor and Mike, awesome video, 35 minutes (dual audio mix, so it's really 17 minutes of new content) = U$S19,95
Gage................................................, 17 minutes (dual audio mix, si it's really 9 minutes of new content)= U$S19,95

(You might wonder if Gage's videos is awesome... I don't know, I don't think i'll buy it, too little for too much

Nudity videos
Adam Heartbeat, awesome video, 43 minutes (dual audio mix, so it's really 21 minutes of new content) = U$S34,99
James Heartbeat,.........................., 12 minutes (doesn't say if it's dual mix)........................................... = U$S34,99

(Not going to buy James's video... way too much

Fourth, I don't know, it's a matter of taste... don't get me wrong, the owner of the site is quite attractive, but his involvement in the videos make it seem like it's an opportunity for fulfilling his fantasies. I mean, i don't know if i wouldn't do it if I had the chance, but sometimes the videos are quite unconfortable to watch. It really reminds me of MalePhysical (with less sex of course), and we all know how that turned out.

Anyways, I really like the content besides those thing, and now i'm quite picky on what videos I buy... what about you guys? Did you bought any videos? favorites? Ideas? What we would like to see? (maybe if we get a few good suggestions we can get better content).

ChiraBeats · 2017-03-14 17:22:29

What is Film911 and why was it banned from HBP?

RodrigoMDZ · 2017-03-14 17:44:44

https://film911.net/ is a website that produces and sells videos catering for small niche kinks (as i said, it's not always fetishist cause there's not sexual content in all their videos). They do CPR, Vore, Male Pregnancy and others (wich i really don't care for too much)... one of their cathegories are heartbeat videos. In them they film the models and record their heartbeats live while doing different activities. There's regular videos (with heartbeats during excercise or play doctor scenes) and there's adult videos (that include heartbeats during masturbation and/or nudity)

It was a taboo subject on HBP cause it had some adult content so the minors could access it, you know how important is minors safety in HBP... :rolleyes:

ChiraBeats · 2017-03-14 17:47:40

If it had some adult content then it sounds like it'd be fine in HBP's adult area. Of course they wouldn't allow it in the SFW areas.

acardiophileblog · 2017-03-14 18:03:23

wait, film 911 was banned, but xhearts hasn't been?

sounds like double standards to me. is mat afraid of dicks or something?

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RodrigoMDZ · 2017-03-14 18:06:30

Well, I don't think the user was banned... but when the owner of Film911 made a post about a video or someone even named the site it was deleted.

I don't know about xhearts...

HayaiShinzouNeko · 2017-03-14 19:53:18

I think it might have been that Film911 was advertising in the SFW areas about NSFW content. Pretty sure it wasn't the content, because Film911 is targeted to gay men and Mat is a gay man.

lubdafuqdub · 2017-03-17 21:51:57

There is a lot more to that though.

Film911 has been on and off for quite some time now, at least a good four years. He (finally) has now made a more permanent site instead of using Blogger, disappearing for months on end only to reappear for a couple of months before disappearing into obscurity again.

This is his... like 9th/10th incarnation, possibly more, probably not less.

There's regular videos (with heartbeats during excercise or play doctor scenes

There has not been one "play doctor" scene in his regular videos. Anything remotely medical always hits his NSFW shit.

Fourth, I don't know, it's a matter of taste... don't get me wrong, the owner of the site is quite attractive, but his involvement in the videos make it seem like it's an opportunity for fulfilling his fantasies. I mean, i don't know if i wouldn't do it if I had the chance, but sometimes the videos are quite unconfortable to watch.

As a gay man myself, I actually don't think he's attractive because as far as I'm still aware, he's still a dickwad. He has had some previous questionable interactions with some HBP users off the site (can't remember who, this was a really long time ago) and for someone who once charged $100 for a video, I still can't quite trust that the price won't go back to that.

paperpenguin · 2017-03-17 23:14:41

There's a rather sizeable thread about F911 in the Adult section, so it's just not kosher to put into the Safe General, is all.

RodrigoMDZ · 2017-03-17 23:16:44

lubdafuqdub wrote:

There is a lot more to that though.
Film911 has been on and off for quite some time now, at least a good four years. He (finally) has now made a more permanent site instead of using Blogger, disappearing for months on end only to reappear for a couple of months before disappearing into obscurity again.
This is his... like 9th/10th incarnation, possibly more, probably not less.
There's regular videos (with heartbeats during excercise or play doctor scenes
There has not been one "play doctor" scene in his regular videos. Anything remotely medical always hits his NSFW shit.
Fourth, I don't know, it's a matter of taste... don't get me wrong, the owner of the site is quite attractive, but his involvement in the videos make it seem like it's an opportunity for fulfilling his fantasies. I mean, i don't know if i wouldn't do it if I had the chance, but sometimes the videos are quite unconfortable to watch.
As a gay man myself, I actually don't think he's attractive because as far as I'm still aware, he's still a dickwad. He has had some previous questionable interactions with some HBP users off the site (can't remember who, this was a really long time ago) and for someone who once charged $100 for a video, I still can't quite trust that the price won't go back to that.

Well, his sense of "play doctor" is quite loose. The scenes are mostrly "straight" guys giggling like little girls or forced dialogue. But I remember a few old videos, one with Andrew comes to mind, where the two guys "played stething" and it was somewhat interesting. The reality is most of the videos will continue to involve nudity. The production value is more expensive but they retail for more money... and the sexual side of all this is more appealing. It would be like heartbeatbabes made videos showing tits and others with tits covered, probably the second ones would dissapear eventually. For me, the real issue continues to be the incoherent pricing. You can't expect to charge the same price for a 12 minute video and a 40 minute video. There's no correlation.

And it has been a loooong time, not 4 years. I remember him trying to sell videos in the yahoo groups, way too expensive also. I had an interaction with him at the time and it was not pleasant, he didn't liked my criticism about the issue of pricing and ended up insulting me. I don't remember anything out of that in terms of interacting.I have chatted with him a few times now and he's changed a few points of view, the proucts are somewhat better... but it's still bad that there's not some regularity on updates or pricing. For example, if it had regularity he could sell subscriptions at a reduced price that would signify a steady income. e tried to do that a few months ago, selling a monthly subscription for the price of a regular video that gave you access to one video per month... so, it was the same as paying for the video, with another name.

Imagine sites like SeanCody or MenatPlay charging you per video exclusively and varying so much in quality... those sites are huge of course, but they got to be huge by standarizing their videos and adjusting the pricing. I think that's what makes a video fetish site succesful.

But probably you're right, I don't see those changes in the future...

RodrigoMDZ · 2017-03-17 23:21:06

Well, but most members have no access to the adult area, first it was closed for years, then it had weird requirements (cause control is the issue there, always, all the time). By the time you could apply i was on my third username and didn't felt like to work for it and then get banned for speaking my mind. I preferred saying what i meant to say rather than seeing dicks (thou i love dicks... they rule (?) )

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Diff · 2017-03-17 23:29:39

Just because a rule is inconvenient doesn't mean you can ignore it, Film911 isn't banned from hbp any more than anything else that's NSFW.

RodrigoMDZ · 2017-03-18 01:38:31

Diff wrote:

Just because a rule is inconvenient doesn't mean you can ignore it, Film911 isn't banned from hbp any more than anything else that's NSFW.

Yes, yes... of course... :rolleyes:
Now, can we move on the HBP thing? We're not in Kansas anymore.

film911online · 2018-08-10 20:42:53

RodrigoMDZ wrote:

Oh well, Film911 was forbidden on "the other place" but I guess we can chat about it here more freely, without being completely explicit I guess, no need to talk about details. Maybe the owner will eventually join here and we'll get bigger and better contents.
Well, I have to confess... being a very specific kink is not really easy to find a site that caters to our needs in terms of heartbeat "porn" (I use quotation marks cause it's not always sexual... i mean, most of the videos of Film911 are from guys stethign each other, excercising or playing doctor, not every time we get nudity on them), i have bought several of the videos. At first the videos were quite short (and expensive) but it was so new I just had to buy a few. Then, with suggestions and what not the videos improved a lot, specially regarding the sound and the lenght (wich for me cut the price down as well... it's not the same to pay u$S20 for a 12 minute video than paying it for a 26 minute video with two angles or two sound mixes totalling over 40 minutes. So, I bought lots of those for a while...)
But, eventually, they started to have a few new problems.
First of all, they became quite boring, very repetitive... always the same scenes (the guy running or excercising, then stething, more excercise, more stething, doctor scene, then end).
Second, the lenght... with the excuse of dual audio mix the videos have been cutting short again. Instead of two audio mixes of 20 minutes we get two of 10 or less.
Third, the pricing is incoherent. I mean, i know it's a small niche and the production value is high. But the pricing is inconsistent... or rather way too consistent. You pay the same amount of money for a video of 15 minutes than for a video of 40.
For example:
Regular videos
Connor and Mike, awesome video, 35 minutes (dual audio mix, so it's really 17 minutes of new content) = U$S19,95
Gage................................................, 17 minutes (dual audio mix, si it's really 9 minutes of new content)= U$S19,95
(You might wonder if Gage's videos is awesome... I don't know, I don't think i'll buy it, too little for too much
Nudity videos
Adam Heartbeat, awesome video, 43 minutes (dual audio mix, so it's really 21 minutes of new content) = U$S34,99
James Heartbeat,.........................., 12 minutes (doesn't say if it's dual mix)........................................... = U$S34,99
(Not going to buy James's video... way too much
Fourth, I don't know, it's a matter of taste... don't get me wrong, the owner of the site is quite attractive, but his involvement in the videos make it seem like it's an opportunity for fulfilling his fantasies. I mean, i don't know if i wouldn't do it if I had the chance, but sometimes the videos are quite unconfortable to watch. It really reminds me of MalePhysical (with less sex of course), and we all know how that turned out.
Anyways, I really like the content besides those thing, and now i'm quite picky on what videos I buy... what about you guys? Did you bought any videos? favorites? Ideas? What we would like to see? (maybe if we get a few good suggestions we can get better content).

I can't believe I didn't see this sooner cause I agree with pretty much everything. The videos do tend to be repetitive, the pricing isn't consistent, and we need to be on it with the audio. No excuses, but I have a hard time coming up with new scenarios with no input from the community. The pricing is the same consistently because no matter how long the video is the model charges me the same price. These video make so little to no money that I have to keep that price to recoup costs at the minimum. Now moving forward I can be more mindful and make the length match the price. Just hard to come up with 20 minutes sometimes. Please e-mail me at contact@film911.net and maybe we can work together to make the videos everything the community wants.

film911online · 2018-08-10 20:48:55

RodrigoMDZ wrote:

lubdafuqdub wrote:
There is a lot more to that though.
Film911 has been on and off for quite some time now, at least a good four years. He (finally) has now made a more permanent site instead of using Blogger, disappearing for months on end only to reappear for a couple of months before disappearing into obscurity again.
This is his... like 9th/10th incarnation, possibly more, probably not less.
There's regular videos (with heartbeats during excercise or play doctor scenes
There has not been one "play doctor" scene in his regular videos. Anything remotely medical always hits his NSFW shit.
Fourth, I don't know, it's a matter of taste... don't get me wrong, the owner of the site is quite attractive, but his involvement in the videos make it seem like it's an opportunity for fulfilling his fantasies. I mean, i don't know if i wouldn't do it if I had the chance, but sometimes the videos are quite unconfortable to watch.
As a gay man myself, I actually don't think he's attractive because as far as I'm still aware, he's still a dickwad. He has had some previous questionable interactions with some HBP users off the site (can't remember who, this was a really long time ago) and for someone who once charged $100 for a video, I still can't quite trust that the price won't go back to that.
Well, his sense of "play doctor" is quite loose. The scenes are mostrly "straight" guys giggling like little girls or forced dialogue. But I remember a few old videos, one with Andrew comes to mind, where the two guys "played stething" and it was somewhat interesting. The reality is most of the videos will continue to involve nudity. The production value is more expensive but they retail for more money... and the sexual side of all this is more appealing. It would be like heartbeatbabes made videos showing tits and others with tits covered, probably the second ones would dissapear eventually. For me, the real issue continues to be the incoherent pricing. You can't expect to charge the same price for a 12 minute video and a 40 minute video. There's no correlation.
And it has been a loooong time, not 4 years. I remember him trying to sell videos in the yahoo groups, way too expensive also. I had an interaction with him at the time and it was not pleasant, he didn't liked my criticism about the issue of pricing and ended up insulting me. I don't remember anything out of that in terms of interacting.I have chatted with him a few times now and he's changed a few points of view, the proucts are somewhat better... but it's still bad that there's not some regularity on updates or pricing. For example, if it had regularity he could sell subscriptions at a reduced price that would signify a steady income. e tried to do that a few months ago, selling a monthly subscription for the price of a regular video that gave you access to one video per month... so, it was the same as paying for the video, with another name.
Imagine sites like SeanCody or MenatPlay charging you per video exclusively and varying so much in quality... those sites are huge of course, but they got to be huge by standarizing their videos and adjusting the pricing. I think that's what makes a video fetish site succesful.
But probably you're right, I don't see those changes in the future...

I am sorry if I wasn't kind to you in the past. Unfortunately a subscription based site just wouldn't work. We have ran the numbers.

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